Comments on: Nonprofits, Open Source and Leadership: ONE/Northwest and the Plone Community http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/ Politics, the environment, technology, activism. And stuff. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:29:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Phillip Smith http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-391319 Phillip Smith Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:06:04 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-391319 <p>Only a month and a week late reading this, but -- nonetheless -- a great and timely post my friend. Inspiring as usual. :-)</p> <p>Phillip.</p> Only a month and a week late reading this, but — nonetheless — a great and timely post my friend. Inspiring as usual. :-)

Phillip.

]]> By: Jodie http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-388165 Jodie Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:34:14 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-388165 <p>Has taken me a week to catch-up post Web of Change. This is solid Jon. Thanks for taking the time to put it out there.</p> Has taken me a week to catch-up post Web of Change. This is solid Jon. Thanks for taking the time to put it out there.

]]> By: Steve http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-383385 Steve Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:32:56 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-383385 <p>Jon, great article. Really nice write up of the ONE/Northwest experience in the Plone community. If I can write up our experience in the Salesforce.com community with even half the insight of this article, I'll be pleased. Nice work.</p> Jon, great article. Really nice write up of the ONE/Northwest experience in the Plone community. If I can write up our experience in the Salesforce.com community with even half the insight of this article, I’ll be pleased. Nice work.

]]> By: Yves Moisan http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-381549 Yves Moisan Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:42:17 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-381549 <p>After a few days of decantation, I feel the jist of your essay has to do with the greatness and diversity of the Plone community. That Paul Everitt, one of the most articulate proponent of Plone-the-community, was the very first to comment your essay speaks for itself. Which brings me to the idea that plone.org should convey more prominently the idea that Plone is a great community. I would suggest adding a fourth item to the "What is Plone" section of plone.org : "Who is Plone" or "People of Plone" or "Plone community" that would point to a list of organizations/individuals and what they are involved in.</p> <p>Not many people know about the exact involvement of Oxfam for example. How many man/month-years? What Plone products specifically? How did Oxfam's money and in kind involvement make Plone a better product for all? I see some short report, a la news, or one-liners with the name of the organization, some idea of the overall amount of work (a hyperlink to a more formal involvement summary maybe ?) and names of projects linked to their respective locations in the plone.org/products section. What do you think ?</p> After a few days of decantation, I feel the jist of your essay has to do with the greatness and diversity of the Plone community. That Paul Everitt, one of the most articulate proponent of Plone-the-community, was the very first to comment your essay speaks for itself. Which brings me to the idea that plone.org should convey more prominently the idea that Plone is a great community. I would suggest adding a fourth item to the “What is Plone” section of plone.org : “Who is Plone” or “People of Plone” or “Plone community” that would point to a list of organizations/individuals and what they are involved in.

Not many people know about the exact involvement of Oxfam for example. How many man/month-years? What Plone products specifically? How did Oxfam’s money and in kind involvement make Plone a better product for all? I see some short report, a la news, or one-liners with the name of the organization, some idea of the overall amount of work (a hyperlink to a more formal involvement summary maybe ?) and names of projects linked to their respective locations in the plone.org/products section. What do you think ?

]]> By: Geeks and global justice » Blog Archive » Web of Change and me http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-381009 Geeks and global justice » Blog Archive » Web of Change and me Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:30:27 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-381009 <p>[...] of non-profits and open source, and he doesn’t mind getting political n shit… He posted this essay on his blog, which I skimmed but will treat more in depth when I [...]</p> [...] of non-profits and open source, and he doesn’t mind getting political n shit… He posted this essay on his blog, which I skimmed but will treat more in depth when I [...]

]]> By: Rob Cottingham » links for 2007-09-22 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-380156 Rob Cottingham » links for 2007-09-22 Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:20:49 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-380156 <p>[...] Nonprofits, Open Source and Leadership: ONE/Northwest and the Plone Community Great post by Jon Stahl. The points at the end - what the nonprofit and open-source communities can learn from each other - are pure gold. (tags: nptech opensource plone ngo) [...]</p> [...] Nonprofits, Open Source and Leadership: ONE/Northwest and the Plone Community Great post by Jon Stahl. The points at the end - what the nonprofit and open-source communities can learn from each other - are pure gold. (tags: nptech opensource plone ngo) [...]

]]> By: Dan Thomas http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-380017 Dan Thomas Fri, 21 Sep 2007 23:02:08 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-380017 <p>Jon, You are not only doing great advocacy work on behalf of the nonprofit community for a better Plone, you are also serving as its unofficial Plone help desk guru. This deserves to be acknowledged. Thanks for your many tips and postings that appear online and in your offline personal replies to questions great and small.</p> Jon,
You are not only doing great advocacy work on behalf of the nonprofit community for a better Plone, you are also serving as its unofficial Plone help desk guru. This deserves to be acknowledged. Thanks for your many tips and postings that appear online and in your offline personal replies to questions great and small.

]]> By: Beth Kanter http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379813 Beth Kanter Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:40:46 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379813 <p>Great post! Thanks</p> Great post! Thanks

]]> By: Michelle Murrain http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379767 Michelle Murrain Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:13:28 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379767 <p>Jon, Thanks for this - it's a great writeup. I wish I could include the whole thing in the primer - but I'm glad there is a bit of a taste of it there. It's great that there are more and more stories like this out there.</p> Jon, Thanks for this - it’s a great writeup. I wish I could include the whole thing in the primer - but I’m glad there is a bit of a taste of it there. It’s great that there are more and more stories like this out there.

]]> By: Yves Moisan http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379745 Yves Moisan Fri, 21 Sep 2007 15:41:47 +0000 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon/archives/2007/09/20/nonprofits-open-source-and-leadership-onenorthwest-and-the-plone-community/#comment-379745 <p>Kudos to you guys at ONE/Northwest. The political and management aspects of FOSS projects you raise remind me of some sections of Karl Fogel's book (Producing Open Source Software at http://producingoss.com/).</p> <p>As an humble human being trying to push FOSS philosophy in my current organization (and having to fight inertia, people not wanting to bother a change in entrenched computational habits, etc.), I find stories like yours a source of motivation and an efficient radiator to ventilate my own transient frustrations. Long-term stubborness coupled with agile short-term openness or is it the other way around ;-). I hope to be able to tell my story one day.</p> <p>Cheers</p> Kudos to you guys at ONE/Northwest. The political and management aspects of FOSS projects you raise remind me of some sections of Karl Fogel’s book (Producing Open Source Software at http://producingoss.com/).

As an humble human being trying to push FOSS philosophy in my current organization (and having to fight inertia, people not wanting to bother a change in entrenched computational habits, etc.), I find stories like yours a source of motivation and an efficient radiator to ventilate my own transient frustrations. Long-term stubborness coupled with agile short-term openness or is it the other way around ;-). I hope to be able to tell my story one day.

Cheers

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